She Stole Identities For Years Without Getting Caught
This video was sponsored by Incogn. Stick around to find out more. >> And we start today with that developing story. Investigators seizing computers from the Larks home of Chris Birdman Anderson. >> In 2011, his Colorado home was searched for nude pictures of a California teen. >> I said, “Listen, I’m 17.
You’re going to be in a lot of trouble if you do this stuff.” Instead, their investigation took them here to a remote Manitoba reserve. >> The NBA basketball player was their prime suspect and and and it wasn’t at all. It was uh Shelley Charce from from Easterville, Manitoba. >> The fact that she was able to basically pull all these strings like a master puppeteer is nothing short of amazing.
>> I’m Shel. I’m Shelley Shi. People ask me that. They ask me, “How’d you get so many followers?” I don’t know. Just got followers. I was a Chris Anderson fan. It started by I liked his Facebook fan page and then probably I don’t know how much time later I got a friend request from a Chris, you know, Facebook and of course it looked legit.
You know, he had a a wife and a and a kid and and posted pictures of his house. So it started with a message and it just said, “Hey.” And then I got a friend request from Tom, Chris’s brother-in-law and best friend. And that’s the person I talked to a lot right at the beginning during that. He would tell me, “Oh, well Chris this, Chris that, here’s Chris number, you should text him.
” And then I started texting Chris. It all ended up being flirty and and fun and exchanging of photos and, you know, he’s sending me selfies and then we started with the nude pictures. It was it was kind of crazy cuz you’re going back and forth in your mind like is this real? Is this not real? you know, stuff like that. >> At first, he sent some normal pictures, but then when I sent Paris’s pictures to him, he sent a bunch of his dick pictures.
I, too, have taken a lot of [ __ ] pictures. I don’t know. I guess they like that. Like, they don’t even try to get to know you first. Stupid. One thing that the Shelley Charter case proves is just how easily your personal data can be accessed online and how anybody can fall into these digital traps.
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Yeah, I want you to come out here. I’ll buy you a ticket right now. So buys me a ticket like right off the bat and then it was a legit ticket. So I ended up going. Me and Chris had a good time. It was fun, but there was moments when a lot of things we said to each other didn’t add up.
He was playing his Xbox, which he loved, you know, Call of Duty. And I remember he said, “Oh, look. Your sister must be online.” Like, cuz you know how you have friends and the accounts. I said, “I don’t have an Xbox. I don’t have an account and my sister doesn’t even play this.” And I remember it was just silent.
And he went and deleted it as a friend and we just never talked about it. There was just random money all over the house. It was like he was waiting for me to maybe go through it or steal some or something cuz he would count it and he’d like smile to himself, you know? I thought that was weird. It’s weird. >> I got him laid basically all weekend.
He got laid and he text me after he put her on a plane and said, “It was really cool meeting you and we had a lot of fun and you’re a cool girl.” And then I sent it to Paris and she said, “Yeah, it was nice meeting you.” So, the weekend ended off fine, but then it’s things started getting crazy because Chris and Tom’s obsession with that Call of Duty game ended up bringing in another person who was a pro gamer.
They wanted me to fly to Indiana to act like I was going to get game lessons to steal the guy’s game codes so they could hack into his stuff. And that was a big fight because I didn’t want to do it. And it was a back and forth. I guess something snapped because that’s when things started getting really mean.
>> I told her, “Shut the up.” And we went back and forth at each other and I threatened her in the text. >> I was getting, “I’m going to send somebody down there, you [ __ ] I’m going to have you raped and killed and thrown on the side of the street.” He was threatening to post my naked images online, which of course I think that’s worse than even a death threat.
I got all these horrible things and I said, “Listen, I’m 17. You’re going to be in a lot of trouble if you do this stuff.” And it was specifically, “Go to this link, go to this forum, go there, go see what’s on there.” You know, and there’s all my pictures and my address and my phone number and my mom’s number.
All my stuff was on there. And that’s when, you know, um I told my mom everything and we called the cops. And this one cop comes over. You know, this is small town, like police coming over. And I remember we opened the door and he said, “You just opened a big can of worms.” And that’s all he said.
And I just thought, “Great.” You know, big thing’s about to start. >> We were outside his Larksburg home this afternoon. A woman was inside but told us to go away. >> And we start today with that developing story. Investigators seizing computers from the Larks home of Chris Birdman Anderson. The Nugget Center now at the center of an internet crimes against children investigation.
The Nuggets issued a statement saying Chris has been excused from all team related activities indefinitely as he deals with this reported investigation. >> Kelly, a search warrant issued with Bird Vans at Bird Van’s home, but no arrest. >> That’s right, Mike. Enough probable cause to search and seize items from the home.
But the reason there has been no arrest is because authorities now need to analyze those items. It’s unclear how long that analysis may take. Investigators didn’t find the IP address they were looking for. Instead, their investigation took them here to a remote Manitoba reserve. >> As soon as I saw the affidavit from Douglas County, I knew that the NBA basketball player was their prime suspect and and and it wasn’t at all.
It was uh Shelley Charce from from Easterville, Manitoba. >> Shelley Charce is accused of masterminding a complex online hoax from her mother’s home in Easterville. The 29-year-old allegedly created a fake Chris Anderson Facebook account, romanced a 17-year-old girl in California, then set up a second fake account in her name to communicate to the real Anderson in Colorado, creating the illusion they were talking to each other to exchange nude photos in a triangle of fake communication, all controlled from Manitoba. When the porn
allegation surfaced, Anderson was booted from the Denver Nuggets. Now he’s cleared and recently released a statement saying it’s everybody’s worst nightmare. But I just want to thank everyone that supported me and knew this was a lie from the beginning. One of the big questions that constantly comes up in this case is people say, “Wait a minute.
Didn’t the basketball player still do something wrong here?” Well, the actual sexual relations between the basketball player and Paris isn’t a criminal offense. She was old enough by law to consent to having sex. However, the law is different when it comes to photographs. That is child pornography. Did he take the steps necessary in law to try and obtain what her age was? The answer is yes.
Therefore, in law, he didn’t do anything wrong. Everybody on this team participated. Birdman. Birdman’s tattoos, Birdman’s mohawk. The reason this case generated such an avalanche of response from police on both sides of the border and certainly the publicity that has followed worldwide if if this was just Joe and Jane Average who had been victimized.
Uh I’m not going to say that it wouldn’t have been prosecuted, but it might not have been prosecuted because of who the victims were, specifically the basketball player. I think that drove this story uh and that drove the response by police. they saw an opportunity here to make an example out of somebody.
One of the more eye-opening revelations in the US court documents was uh an email that police referred to that had been sent to the basketball player allegedly or purportedly by Paris’s mother. Now, we know, of course, that that was Shelley Chartier behind that letter. It was a very strongly worded letter. I mean, it was blackmail. Uh let’s call it what it is.
I I really think it boils down to this is somebody who for a few years became a habitual liar and then once she essentially got caught, she then tried to mitigate or downplay a lot of what she did. There’s enough smoking guns, if you will, to show that Shelley Charce was much more involved than she’s willing to admit.
I almost thought it was a mistake at first, like this is where the suspect’s from that, you know, your initial thought is they even have the internet up there. >> They executed the search warrant. There was about 10 of us that came up from Winnipeg. I’m Shelley was 28 and one of my colleagues commented, “That can’t be her because she looks like she’s 14.
” a portrait began to emerge of of a woman who had lived her life somehow someway in virtual isolation >> and we made the arrest. She hadn’t left her home in a number of years. So, she was having a bit of a panic attack. >> The cases that I’ve done have run the gamut from murder to theft under $5,000. We have a full service criminal law practice in the PA.
Having gone to Easterville for many years, I I basically know everybody in town. And and to be honest, it’s it’s unusual to find somebody who I I had never seen Miss Charte before. She never left the house. She certainly wasn’t involved in the criminal justice system either as a witness or as a defendant. Uh and extremely reclusive, extremely almost terrified of coming to court on the first appearance.
Never had a client like her. So this is a courtroom. Once a month, this room transforms into a provincial courtroom. And on the day of Shelley Charce sentencing, it was quite the scene. It began with an ambulance pulling up into the parking lot of the community hall and a woman emerging on a stretcher who it turned out was Shel’s mother, Dileia. Mother was bedridden.
Uh Shelley was essentially Dileia’s primary caregiver. She had insisted on being there for her daughter. The gallery was packed. There was about 70 chairs all set up. Probably the most remarkable scene of all. Judge Rollston was about here. There was a thin little table set up in front. Shelley Charce within a couple feet.
They could actually have reached out and touched each other. The judge reading from his decision, looking directly at Shelley Charter, of course, eventually pronouncing a jail sentence. >> Uh, I thought the prosecution did an excellent job. The judge didn’t give me what I was asking for, but I I I I can hardly say that it was the his reasoning was in any way uh uh there was any problem with it.
It was an excellent uh decision as well, I thought, by by the judge. After the judge had pronounced his sentence, Dileia was quite upset, asking if she could be taken away with her daughter. A noble request, obviously one that couldn’t be met. The public hadn’t seen what this woman looked like. This was our opportunity to to give the public a bit of a glimpse of her.
All of that didn’t seem real. I thought my life was over. I don’t know what I felt like. It felt like the worst level of helplessness you could feel. I think she is a crazy person. I don’t think she’s ever going to stop the catfishing thing. I can’t believe somebody would marry her. My name is Robert Maru and I’m from Warren, Michigan and I’ve been living in Yoners, New York and I moved out here to Easterville to live with my wife.
I was with her in the long-distance relationship for about 2 years. Coming up here, I was really relieved and happy I was finally home. It felt instantly. She’s funny, she’s cute, she’s she’s a great person that like wanted to build churches in Africa. And it made me feel like she is a good soul like and I just like that about her.
And she taugh she taught me a lot like how to love. I guess Shelley Sherie always had a scheme in mind with what was going on. She tries to butter you up a little bit to start with. If things aren’t going her way, it always went mean. >> I mean, here’s a girl who had nothing going for her in terms of relationships, in terms of material acquisitions, in terms of excitement, and all of a sudden this world opens up to her and it becomes addictive.
And the internet’s saying, “There’s more, Shelly. There’s more.” And it brings out in Shelly, you know, the the dark side of humanity. We all have dark sides and if you’re pushed pushed pushed pushed and you’re vulnerable, this is what happens. >> So the scope of this investigation was the largest investigation that I’ve been involved in to date.
>> We had heard whispers of other potential victims out there, numerous hockey players, other proathletes, Playboy models, things like that. >> Shelley had made up a lot of online personas, social media personas. I don’t know when Shelley Charter actually slept. She was on some sort of device. It seemed to be constant.
>> Shelley Charte was a a celebrity obsessed uh starruck fanatic. She just enjoyed messing with people. >> People were sending her presents, gift cards, iTunes cards, cellular phones. It sort of came to play. Shelley Charter didn’t ask for a lot. Um, and I I don’t I don’t know why >> she was forging my signature.
She was pretending to be my mother and trying to get money. I had no idea about any of that. >> Uh, $3,000 was uh, put into a PayPal account. the Canadian police and the Denver police came to me and I remember it was in my parents office and they laid out this humongous graph just spiderwebs of everybody and then there’s me and Chris you know in our thing and there’s Shelly right in the middle.
>> The fact that she was able to basically pull all these strings like a master puppeteer and and not trip herself up uh is is nothing short of amazing. You would have almost thought she’d have to have maps and flowcharts up in her house just to keep track of of which identity am I playing today? Uh who am I to this person? Who am I to that person? The emotional complexity.
And if you really think about it here, you’ve got someone with grade six, maybe grade seven education that has largely shunned any other type of interactions outside of with her immediate or near immediate family who is able to skillfully emotionally connect with these individuals, meet their needs, have them believe that they’re engaging in these really fulfilling relationships over years. Uh that is not at all normal.
All right. So, after a long day of unpacking and waiting for her to call, she still hasn’t called. So, yeah, I’m pretty damn excited cuz I got the room looking pretty nice. This is all an empty room last night. And yeah, I’m working on these little welcome home cards and just going to make sure we keep on the right track and everything works out.
When I first seen the media’s view on the story, I remember seeing the name um Manitoba’s master manipulator, I was like, “Whoa, that’s over the top.” She was always honest with me. I I know that she jumped on it and it was her fault. She really wasn’t aware of how wrong it was until it actually impacted her and showed her how wrong it was.
Now, at the end of the day, Shelley Chartier didn’t get rich off of this. In fact, it’s debatable how much she actually made. I don’t think anybody is arguing that she made more than maybe a few thousand. I don’t think it had anything to do with the money. at least not to any large degree. I think that was a very minor sidebar for her.
>> What Chile may have been doing is having other people in her place, acting as avatars so that she could experience um what the other person’s experiencing but still be in the safety of her own home. >> Okay. You know that we’re making a movie. >> Really? >> Yes. We’ve interviewed people >> who >> you’re going to see a couple.
>> I don’t want to see them. >> We’re going to play you a couple clips cuz these people bring up some interesting points and I want to know what you think about the things that they’re saying. >> Sarah, please. >> I’ve often wondered if Shelley Charce has some kind of personality disorder. Uh, I think a psychologist, a psychiatrist, sociologist, a criminologist, they would all have a field day studying her studying her case.
>> If someone’s absolutely terrified and lives their life with fear of the outside world and then they find this this place online that’s that’s safe and and they’re in control of it. They can turn it off whenever they want. to the power of realizing that you can control and manipulate people had to be so compelling.
Especially she if she didn’t feel comfortable even going outside, she probably felt like she had zero control over the rest of her life. They might have low self-esteem. They might want to reach out to someone who could be a celebrity or someone that they’ve been they’ve admired for a long time. They may feel neglected. they’re not getting the same type of nurturing, the same friendship and love that that they that they’re seeking, right? >> We have to listen to all 33 minutes of this.
>> They go ahead and try to seek that online. >> And while it might be uh ephemeral and and not very meaningful, they still get the same feeling from that person. Um so a lot of times people will change their identities to try to obtain those feelings from others. I say right on, sister. >> Okay, next. >> Before you break the damn thing, I’ll set it up.
I met Shel on Call of Duty Black Ops 2 search and destroy lobby. >> I heard him talking and I liked his voice because he has a deep voice. So, I shanked him because every time I do it, he would talk. I thought that that’s pretty awesome to have a wife that can’t kick my ass in Call of Duty. >> I messaged him and got his Facebook and texted.
>> She had like books as her uh cover photo, like a library. I was like, “Not everybody reads, so maybe she’s different and I should look into that.” >> I wanted to be like more like there. We got so comfortable with each other that we were texting a lot. >> She would tell me like stuff like that she would dream about doing.
>> How is that perfect? It’s not even on me. >> And then one day he just called me and we just talked like that and it was every day. >> She says that she picked me up and I say no I picked you up with my voice. >> And he asked me are you my girlfriend? I said, “Yeah, I guess.” So, we were together ever since that day.
>> He’s just a really good person. Like, I told him, “You don’t deserve me.” No, I don’t deserve you. You don’t deserve me. >> You talked to MTV today. >> That’s another pretty random thing. >> That’s what happened, I guess. >> I don’t know. I feel like I don’t because he’s so good. And hearing all this bad stuff about myself starts to make me think I don’t deserve anything.
He’s the one good thing in my life. I liked her a lot. Loved her. Love her still. And married her. a lot of her life story it kind of like it’s touching in a bad way like it’s I feel feel for her and it hurts that she has to go through that hurt >> and what is extraordinary about uh Shellyley is that she insisted on surviving this is this is what I find in her story I want to sort of glorify it.
I just see a person who was dealt a very bad hand and who managed to pull something out of it in Shel’s case. And when you think of her her community, that is a community where you can quite clearly see the process of evicting them from their own land. literally pushed out of anything viable and almost left standing on a rock.
As band counselor William Captain has just told us, within the next 12 months, he and other members of this community of over 300 strong will move to a new settlement on the shores of the Grand Rapids Forbay. While the waters of the Saskatchewan River gradually cover their 80-year-old village, >> I look forward to it with some apprehension because of the unknown factors.
The area over there isn’t as good as what they’re losing. Well, the people here uh live uh almost entirely off the natural resources. Employment has never been a problem here. It’s quite a self-sufficient community. more. Yes. Here at Easterville, the construction is right on schedule. These homes, the shopping center and school still to come are placed on cement foundations, but they are without basement because this site stands on rock. This, the
construction foreman admits, has presented some problems. >> Well, I don’t want to be an alarmist barrel, but maybe we should go before the water begins to rise here. What do you think? >> Oh, Bill, I think that you’ve got a minute or two yet. >> At least a minute or two. It’s going to be a shame to see this completely covered by water, though, isn’t it? >> It’s going to be hard for us to say goodbye to this town of yesterday.
stay. I think I was too overprotective of her because uh when she was going to school, she was bullied constantly um repeatedly coming home barefoot because kids took her shoes away. Yeah. So, I took her out. I regret that. Both my grandmothers went to residential school and they would talk about how they snuck out, jumped out the window trying to go home because they didn’t feel like it was safe there.
Getting punished for the stupidest thing, speaking your language or trying to talk to your brother. My grandpa, he was very mean when he wanted to be, but when he wasn’t drunk, he was it was really nice. It made me hate alcohol because it turned my grandpa into someone he wasn’t, like a really ugly person. I’m glad that she never experienced the drugs and the alcohol and that.
>> I had friends, a group of friends, and they they all had boyfriends and I didn’t they all smoked and I didn’t want to do that stuff. So, I guess I got I don’t know. know, I just didn’t want to participate. And because I didn’t want to participate, they just left me alone. >> Her mom, Kathy, her her aunt, who she’s seen as a mother for raising her, her passing was a devastating moment in her life.
And I’m sure that it broke her heart. It must have changed her. It must have played a part in her whole case. When I lost my aunt, I don’t know exactly how I felt. I can’t describe that. I was the one who found her. She was just laying there and I kept yelling at her and she wouldn’t wake up. The woman who raised me, the woman who changed every diaper I ever had, every bath I ever took, brushed my hair, everything was that woman.
I never knew her to have a boyfriend or a girlfriend. She was just content with being my mom. But I’m not going to blame my behavior on her death. It’s all about me being stupid. I just miss her. Just everything about her. I dreamt of her and it was so vivid. I went up to her and said, “Mom, what’s the number to where you’re at?” She laughed at me.
She’s like, “There’s no number where I am.” And I said, “Well, where are you? are you okay? And she said, I’m okay now. I got sentenced and I wasn’t happy with it obviously, but I did it and I’m happy I got through it. A court of appeal judge once described the sentencing process to me as a sausage factory. You know, it happens incredibly quickly and if you don’t stop to slow the process down, then it will just grind everyone up before it.
And for Aboriginal people, uh they’re very easy to grind up. It’s not surprising that Shelley couldn’t place her circumstances and the broader circumstances that affected her community. I don’t recall really any where the response to when we interview the client, you say, “How did you get here?” The client said, “You know, I think I’m the product of a colonial system designed to destroy Aboriginal people as a people set up in the 1880s by John A. McDonald.
” Like, people don’t know that. People think, “Why are you in trouble?” cuz uh you know cuz I did something wrong. >> I didn’t even really know what a gladoo report was. >> Do you know what it is now? >> Yeah. >> What is it? >> It’s basically a biography of your history, family. >> Why is that relevant? >> Because I believe I didn’t have an easy life.
A Gladoo report tells the story of the life of an indigenous person who’s plead guilty or been found guilty. And the idea behind the reports is if we tell the story of the person’s life, uh the court can learn about who the person is and they may see the offense in a different way because they see the person’s life in a different way.
When I read Shel’s presentence report, I thought there was a story in there, but I didn’t find that story. I had lots of questions. It wasn’t a Gliddoo report. It is embarrassing how long Gliddoo has been with us and our inability to wrap our minds around it and follow the law. One of the saddest uh stories to tell in Canadian history is how the justice system has utterly failed our indigenous brothers and sisters.
Our experience has been that when judges and crown attorneys and defense council get the information that they they don’t know, they don’t have, they actually react very differently. Their sentences are different. Their approaches to sentencing are very different. You know, it’s not that non- indigenous offenders had great lives, but the realities of Aboriginal people, why Aboriginal people are involved in the criminal justice system is intimately tied to government programs that were explicitly designed to deny and destroy Aboriginal people as
a people. That’s not paranoia. That’s not some, you know, crazy document that’s hidden away and no one’s seen. That was express government policy for 100 years and to the extent that it’s changing now that’s a good thing but 100 years does a lot of damage. >> My plan is to attempt to be normal and be treated like just anyone else.
My hope is for my reserve to overcome this. >> Starting to get cold. I don’t like walking this side. The wind’s blowing. I don’t like it. Yeah. Look it. >> What? Hate this [ __ ] >> Come on, babe. We can’t do this. Oh my god. All I care about in this world is that my mom loves me and my husband thinks I’m cute.
>> I don’t care what anyone else thinks. She’s my wife and she’s a great person and I I love her to death and I hope that she’s like seen in a brighter light than what was portrayed. >> Actually, maybe I do care. >> Maybe a little bit. >> What I’m really like is I’m scared of everything. I am a chicken [ __ ] and I’m trying really hard to overcome that.
But with Rob around, it’s >> What are you writing? >> Like I can do anything while he’s next to me. I feel safe with him. >> Yeah. Ever since she’s been back, she’s been going out. Rob, >> what? >> Rob, >> most important thing is I want to see her happy. She’s sorry and she just wants to move on with her husband.
Oh, I applied for a job today. I hope I get it because I need to start making money. No one is just going to hand me money. No one. >> We got an alphabet book of plans and figure out which one’s going to be the best so we can prosper and live and he can stay in Canada. >> That’s another thing.
I really would like to stay in Canada so I can live with my wife. And >> please let him stay. I promise to be good. I want to be able to say that everything I’ve read about this community in the media in the last little while has been so contrary to what I live here. It’s not that there isn’t problems, it’s just that’s what’s highlighted.
And that’s what happened here >> with the Shelly case. um the media it it brought uh an embarrassment to the community because we were all dragged down into the same pit as her. They don’t know the history. They don’t know where we came from. They don’t know who we are. You know, we’re not savage.
We’re we’re a community that that you know helps each other. So that’s what they got wrong. I guess I never really realized how big of a crime what I did. I just thought, “Oh, I just catfished that guy and that’s all.” But it wasn’t. It was so much more than that. And that’s what I wasn’t getting at the time. I blamed everybody.
My lawyer, the judge, the crown, everybody. I blamed Paris. I blamed Chris. I was like, “Oh, why did they got any of this?” But I’ve learned a lot from it. I actually thought about how it was to be like if I was Paris and if someone did that to me. I thought about Chris and I shouldn’t have done this. I was stupid. I was bored. I was lonely.
That’s the truth. Personally, I’m not mad at her. She needed help and nobody was there to help her. That’s how I look at it. You know, we all we all make mistakes. Everybody, even me, and we learn by them. And that’s how I always tell them, you learn by your mistakes as long as you don’t do it again. Yeah.
So, and you know, the outcome of this whole thing that happened turned out to be the positive thing for her. She came out into the community. She came out of her shell. She found a boyfriend and got married. And I envy her for that. Skitting. I’m only kidding there. But, you know, she did a lot. We do like to treat the world in dualities.
One of the dualities that we really like is victims. Victims and offenders. We love to divide the world into victims and offenders. Victims are noble and have suffered horribly and that’s true. And offenders we think conversely are bad. And certainly one thing that we know through doing Gliddoo reports are that victims and offenders are often the same side of the coin.
They are the same person. And the reason that many people are offenders is because they were once victims. And our hearts go out to victims and our hearts harden against offenders. And it becomes hard to do that when you actually know that it’s the same person that you’re feeling these very different things about. I’ve been told by a very wise person that you can’t change anyone’s opinion of you no matter what you do.
I mean, >> today is a sad day because she’s scared. She doesn’t want me to go. And I don’t want to go. >> He’s not allowed in Canada because apparently being married to an American doesn’t qualify the American to become Canadian automatically or something. I don’t know. I have to sponsor him. But in order to do that, I need to get a job.
And I can’t get a job because I have a criminal record. I love the hell out of here. Can’t wait to be back. Thanks again to Incogn for sponsoring
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